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uh he believes he knows that the son in his divine nature which transcends created time has a divine nature and his son who exists who is incarnate inside of created time has a human nature so there’s a sense in which you could say that yes eternally in fact the sun has had two natures in this in the extent that by eternally we’re talking about from his domain to use the language that you used but that’s
but that’s in the same way that uh tolkien after he has created middle earth but of course i’m not saying that in a succession of time god created but it in the time after tolkien has created middle earth if he were to incarnate himself into it you could say that he knows that eternally he has his human nature in the in
our domain but in the domain of middle earth he has the nature that he gives himself therei. I don’t i don’t see any problem with that any sort of contradiction there did i just hear you correctly state pretty much explicitly that the sun’s human nature is co-eternal with god no the sun’s human nature begins in creative time
it doesn’t exist at all eternally if by eternally we’re talking about god’s domain beyond created time so when stephen in acts 7 sees jesus and refers to him as jesus and the son of man in heaven at the right hand of the father who is that it is jesus but god but the father isn’t actually in a three in three dimensional space time and really really really high up there
um i got the oppression that there are some open theists that do think that god is way up there somewhere but i’m hoping that’s not you well nobut uh are you saying there that stephen was not uh was not looking at god in heaven and was not seeing jesus at his right hand he was seeing a rev
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Show up your style now with it the Super number father shirt .he was he was being given a vision nobody else saw that and the vision to whatever extent no i don’t think he was literally seeing jesus at the right hand of the father but he was being shown a vision uh that communicated to him in a didactic fashion much like what you say about genesis 3that
uh that jesus has been exalted to um to his place of exaltation yeah so jesus in your mind jesus referring to god the son with two natures divine and human jesus in your mind is not in god’s domain with the father correct jesus is not the soneternally is i think that that is definitely heretical um you stated a couple of times recently that you believe there are two timelines you believe there’s an imminent timeline
and you believe there’s a transcendent timeline one timeline for us one timeline for god do you still hold to that position i’ve never officially held to that position as i’ve in fact just in this very debate i said that if god transcends created time in the way that i’ve argued um then he may or may not experience a timeline in his own domain
so you you did mention two timelines in your discussion uh with stell man smith jr so maybe that’s something that you just don’t hold to anymore i don’t think i ever held to it in fact i’ve as i’ve said in this debate i lean pretty heavily toward god being timeless now if i called his domain a timeline
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